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Rumored & Random / Re: Rate Saoirse's Films....
« Last post by Steve 7216 on April 25, 2017, 09:41:34 PM »
If it's a true first draft and not the reworking of something even earlier, it's testament to how gifted a writer Mr McEwan truly is... Or as it is based on his own novel perhaps just how easy it is for him to immerse himself back in this world.

There is no direct answer to the topic of Florence's relationship with her father but it's highly implied there was sexual abuse going on, and that she is rather scared of her father.

As for the topic of the sexual revolution... I think this is addressed by the end of the film (and novel) when Florence makes the proposal of an open type of relationship to Edward - at least open on his part. After reading the script it really saddened me to think of how this awkward situation of sexual frustration must have been so common in the past and even so today. It's certainly the most intimate material that Saoirse will have acted, save perhaps for those scenes in Brooklyn and How I Live Now.

Given the information in your post, it makes sense to me one could be so damaged by such abuse that she is actually repulsed to an extreme by "physical" intimacy.  I didn't suspect anything when her character had recollections about the boat trips with her father.  Other readers picked up on it, although the author seemed to suggest one might look at this in different ways.

To me, her proposal was very sad because in those days (and today) beginning a relationship and telling your parter he/she can go outside the marriage is pretty drastic.  Florence no doubt cared very much for him, but not wanting any relations with her own new husband is way outside the norm.  Perhaps Saoirse is the very best young actress to pull off such a complex role.   
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Rumored & Random / Re: Rate Saoirse's Films....
« Last post by MarkRoick on April 25, 2017, 02:32:17 PM »
If it's a true first draft and not the reworking of something even earlier, it's testament to how gifted a writer Mr McEwan truly is... Or as it is based on his own novel perhaps just how easy it is for him to immerse himself back in this world.

There is no direct answer to the topic of Florence's relationship with her father but it's highly implied there was sexual abuse going on, and that she is rather scared of her father.

As for the topic of the sexual revolution... I think this is addressed by the end of the film (and novel) when Florence makes the proposal of an open type of relationship to Edward - at least open on his part. After reading the script it really saddened me to think of how this awkward situation of sexual frustration must have been so common in the past and even so today. It's certainly the most intimate material that Saoirse will have acted, save perhaps for those scenes in Brooklyn and How I Live Now.
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Rumored & Random / Re: Rate Saoirse's Films....
« Last post by Steve 7216 on April 24, 2017, 10:18:15 PM »
Steve, have you read the first draft of the screenplay of On Chesil Beach? I posted a link to it in another thread in this subforum. After reading the book I was doubtful that it would really be a good idea for a movie (because not a huge amount actually happens in the story, save for the extensive flashbacks), but McEwan's screenplay ties it all together really well. And to think it was only a first draft... I'm sure it will only be better when it's finished!

Not yet Mark.  Unfortunately, I spend too much time on the internet and not enough reading books and the like.  I had two thoughts after reading the novel as it pertains to the upcoming film: one was as you mentioned, not a lot happens throughout the course of the story.  Secondly, despite the story taking place in the pre-sexual U.K. revolution according to the author, I felt Florence's character would be difficult to understand given the world we reside in.  That's why I mentioned in a very recent post the belief that Saoirse has her most challenging role playing her.  Perhaps we may be given a clearer understanding of the exact relationship she had with her father in the film.

What can you tell us about this draft?

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Film Productions / Re: Saoirse news thread....
« Last post by MarkRoick on April 24, 2017, 06:12:14 PM »
The world premiere of Loving Vincent is taking place in France!

http://lovingvincent.com/loving-vincent-world-premiere-at-annecy,219,pl.html

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Today we are thrilled to announce that the world premiere of Loving Vincent will be held at the 2017 Annecy International Animation Film Festival in France. The film has been selected to screen in competition in the festival’s Official Selection, returning to Annecy after presenting as a Work in Progress back in 2015.

The Annecy International Animation Film Festival runs from 12th - 17th June 2017. More international film festival screenings for Loving Vincent will be announced soon - sign up to our newsletter for updates.
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Rumored & Random / Re: Rate Saoirse's Films....
« Last post by MarkRoick on April 24, 2017, 06:07:50 PM »
Steve, have you read the first draft of the screenplay of On Chesil Beach? I posted a link to it in another thread in this subforum. After reading the book I was doubtful that it would really be a good idea for a movie (because not a huge amount actually happens in the story, save for the extensive flashbacks), but McEwan's screenplay ties it all together really well. And to think it was only a first draft... I'm sure it will only be better when it's finished!
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Rumored & Random / Re: Rate Saoirse's Films....
« Last post by Steve 7216 on April 24, 2017, 02:33:19 AM »
Yes, I watched the video some years ago.  In the novel, when Briony retires to her room after the party, she has these thoughts in her mind we as readers are privy to because of the written medium.  We finally discover the shocking truth in this exceptionally quiet moment.  Although it works beautifully in the novel, it isn't cinematic in its set-up, and the screenwriter had to invent a way to convey the great and tragic reveal in the most visual of mediums.

You mentioned how it doesn't feel of a piece with the rest of the film, but let us remember she's at the end of her life and in a very different world from which virtually the rest of the entire movie takes place.

As an aside, it just struck me how vastly different Atonement is from On Chesil Beach in the flow and depth of the writing style.  And yet, OCB despite its brief length and sort of rolling momentum never seemed to have a word out of place nor an extraneous one.  I'm firm in my belief the role will be Saoirse's greatest challenge to date.
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Rumored & Random / Re: Rate Saoirse's Films....
« Last post by MMSouth on April 23, 2017, 12:37:24 PM »
One of the forum members "PMG" posted a link to an Ian McEwan interview on another thread today in which he expressed similar views on the film to those we discussed here.  I'll paraphrase, I can't remember his exact words: i) the first half was very well done, ii) Saoirse was excellent as Briony, iii) the final section was a mistake.  He even said that Joe Wright agreed the final section was a mistake!
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Film Productions / Re: What directors, actors and critics have to say about her
« Last post by jlent on April 22, 2017, 10:54:02 PM »
Ian McEwan commented on Saoirse in the film...
I once had that interview on heavy rotation.
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Film Productions / Re: What directors, actors and critics have to say about her
« Last post by PMG on April 22, 2017, 03:41:04 PM »
Nor me.. Nice comments also from Keira Knightly and screenwriter Chris Hammpton.

Ian McEwan commented on Saoirse in the film...

https://tinyurl.com/kxxxxfs
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Rumored & Random / Re: Rate Saoirse's Films....
« Last post by Steve 7216 on April 22, 2017, 12:51:35 PM »
I see.  When I read the word form whilst, I immediately thought you were from the U.K.  It's a form you don't see here in the states.   
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